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This was true as at yesterday evening .It gives you a flavour of what is happening 

Muammar Qaddafi's 42-year rule of Libya appeared to have begun disintegrating Monday, Feb. 21, as civil war swept the country with no signs of him quitting. Instead, he ordered the army to redouble its brutal assaults on the opposition. The Air Force began bombing crowds at random while army tanks and armored vehicles blasted them with live ammunition - not just in the insurgent eastern provinces of Cyrenaica, but the capital of Tripoli and its environs too. There, helicopter gunships aimed heavy machine fire into the main market, the Souk al Jumma, while the first tribal militias loyal to Qaddafi to arrive in the capital from the Sahara fought alongside the army. Casualties soared to an estimated 600, with 250 in Tripoli alone as Qaddafi rallied for a bloody civil war that could linger for years.
High officials of his regime and businessmen began fleeing Tripoli aboard Libyan Air Force fighter jets and helicopters which landed Monday at Malta's MIA international airport.  Government officials in Valetta said the pilots had defected rather than bomb demonstrators, while all the Libyan arrivals asked for political asylum and more flights were on the way. 
The United States and European Union have concentrated airplanes and ferries on the island ready to evacuate the thousands of their citizens employed in Libya, most in the oil and gas fields, starting Monday night, while the price of crude oil shot up 5 percent.
The 48 hours during which Qaddafi dropped out of sight from Saturday were spent, in mustering embers of loyal Libyan tribes to fight along the remnants of the army for his reinstatement.
There are no signs he has any intention of following in the footsteps of the Tunisians and Egyptian presidents and step down.
This is  reported Feb. 21 on the outbreak of civil war:
Around two million Cyrenaican protesters, half of Libya's population who control half of the country and part of its oil resources, embarked Sunday, Feb. 20, on a full-scale revolt against Muammar Qaddafi and his affluent ruling Tripolitanian-dominated regime. Unlike the rights protests sweeping the Middle East and North Africa, in Libya, one half of the country is rising up against the other half, as well as fighting to overthrow a dictatorial ruler of 42 years.
Since last week, heavy battles have been fought in Benghazi, Al Bayda, Al Marj, Tobruk and at least two other two cities. In some places,  military sources report protesters stormed army bases and seized large quantities of missiles, mortars, heavy machine guns and armored vehicles – and used them. The important Fadil Ben Omar Brigade command base in Benghazi was burnt to the ground.
Our sources cite witnesses who spied Berber tribesmen among the insurgents, which bodes ill for Algerian and Morocco and their large Berber populations.
The reports of massacres and imported mercenaries, especially in Benghazi come mainly from opposition sources in West Europe and cannot be independently confirmed at this time. Neither could reports from the same sources Sunday night that Qaddafi's rule had collapsed and the revolt had spread.
At the same time, there is no doubt that Qaddafi will not scruple to use brutal measures in desperation to save his regime, if he has not already. Hospital sources describe hundreds of dead and injured.
He has meanwhile put Ahmed Gaddaf Al-Dam, his cousin and security chief, in charge of the army's effort to suppress the uprising in Benghazi. Most of the city appears to have fallen to the protesters, with the exception of its airport through which the ruler is pumping heavy reinforcements and sending them straight into battle.
So far, the Libyan Air Force and Navy have not been deployed. Helicopters sent in action to shoot into crowds are confirmed in only one place, Al Bayda.
Since Saturday afternoon, Qaddafi has not been seen or heard in public. According to some rumors, he has left Tripoli and made for the Saharan oasis town of Sebha, his tribal birthplace. So far, he has kept up the flow of military reinforcements to the six rebel cities because the towns of Tripolitania have been relatively quiet. But if Tripoli and its environs rise up too, he will be short of military strength to deal with trouble spots in both parts of the country.
Some Libyan would-be go-betweens proposed a ceasefire between Qaddafi and the protesters whereby the government would resign and the popular former prime minister Abdul Salam Jaloud be appointed caretaker prime minister until the crisis is resolved. But Jaloud declined the offer.
It is too early to determine in advance how the showdown between Qaddafi's army and the protesters-insurgents of Cyrenaica turns out. Before it is over, Libya's eastern provinces may be called on to sacrifice thousands more dead and wounded. If the Cyrenaicans do manage to hold on, they will be in a position to carve Libya in two and break away from Tripolitania and the Qaddafi regime.

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Middle East: nothing will ever be the same

The fall of dictatorships in Egypt and Tunisia shows that the U.S. can no longer keep the power scheme it set up for over three decades. Powerless to act directly with the military, the U.S. tries to articulate transitions that change the form of domination, but keep its essence. The Army chose Mubarak's resignation because it realized that his presence had united the opposition. They hope that without him, they might co-opt the opposition sectors to a moderate coalition - with El Baradei, the Muslim Brotherhood, with the support of the U.S. and Europe.

The Middle East has become a pillar of the foreign policy of the North American empire for two good reasons : the strategic need for safe and cheap oil supplies to the U.S., Europe and Japan, and protection for Israel - key U.S. ally in the region, surrounded by Arab countries.

Hence the rise of Arab nationalism has become one of the most frightening ghosts to the U.S. in the world. On the one hand, the nationalisation of oil by nationalist governments directly affects the interests of oil giants - North American or European - and the propagation of anti-imperialist, nationalist ideology - Gamal Abdel Nasser was the leading exponent - as well as the Palestinian question.

The contemporary history of the Middle East centers on the Arab-Israeli war of 1967 as its most important reference. The union of Arab governments allowed the recovering of the claim of the Palestinian state, which was answered by Israel with the invasion of new territories - including Egypt - with the direct military support of the U.S.A.

A new conflict began in 1973, now accompanied by the politics of OPEC to increase oil prices. From that moment, the West sought to overcome its dependence on oil or it would attempt the dividing of the Arab world. This second possibility triumphed, with the Iraq-Iran war, encouraged and armed by the U.S., which struck two countries with nationalist governments, who became mutually neutralized in a bloody confrontation. As a by-product of war, Iraq felt entitled to invade Kuwait - with tacit U.S. approval - which was taken as a pretext for the invasion of Iraq and the definitive settlement of U.S. troops in the very center of the richest oil region in the world.

The U.S. managed to divide the Arab world and has, on one hand the most reactionary regimes - led by monarchies, beginning with Saudi Arabia, which holds the largest oil reserves in the world, and the other moderate governments like Egypt and Jordan. The greatest North American achievement was the co-optation of Anwar El Sadat, Nasser's successor, who surprisingly normalized relations with Israel - the first regime in the region to do so - paving the way for the creation of a moderate, pro-North American bloc in the region, which is characterized by the resumption of relations with Israel - and therefore the recognition of Israel - and virtually abandoning the Palestinian question. This also became a moderating force in OPEC, in the interests of the western powers.

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Egypt as a country has the region's largest population, with large oil production. The country also once had the biggest nationalist leader of the entire region, Nasser. Now it has become crucial as a political pawn of the U.S. in the region. Not coincidentally, Egypt became the second largest country to get U.S. military aid in the world after Israel and ahead of Colombia.

This neutralization of the Arab world, by appointment of governments and the U.S. military presence in the heart of the region - updated with the invasion of Iraq - was in itself an essential element of North American politics in the world and the guarantee of oil supplies to supplement the declining oil production in the U.S.A. and all oil supplies to Europe and Japan

That is what is at stake now, after the fall of dictatorships in Tunisia and Egypt. Impotent to act directly with their military, the U.S. tries to articulate transitions that change the form of domination, but maintains its essence. The Army preferred Mubarak's resignation, because they realized that his presence had united the opposition. They hope that without him, they might co-opt the opposition sectors into a moderate coalition - with El Baradei, the Muslim Brotherhood, and with the support of the U.S. and Europe - that can make constitutional reforms, but control the succession process in the elections of September, managing to demobilise the popular movement before it can forge new leadership.

Independence could be extended to other countries in the region - of which Algeria, Jordan, Morocco and Saudi Arabia are strong candidates. The fall of the dictatorships in Egypt and Tunisia demonstrates that the U.S. can no longer maintain the scheme of power that they did for over three decades. The least that can be expected is political instability in the region, until other coalitions of power can be organised, whose character will colour the new period which the Middle East is set to enter.

 

by Emir Sader.
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Отредактировано Bella (2011-02-22 18:18:38)

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Libya the big fraud in play

U.S. blames Iran and Libya for demonstrations and fall of allies in the Middle East, and in retaliation plans to destabilise Ahmedinejad and Khadafy.
After damage was being assessed after nearly a month of demonstrations in the Middle East, where they almost lost their political hegemony and are running the risk of a fall of strategic influence in the region, the United States through the CIA, the Pentagon and State Department, are holding the leaders Muammar Khadafy of Libya and Mahmoud Ahmedinejad responsible, and are holding Iran mainly responsible for the wave of protests that are brewing with the collapse of major U.S. allies in the region.
Considered by Arabs and Persians the only two existing democracies in the Middle East and Persian Gulf, Iran and Libya have governments and policies that threaten U.S. hegemony in the region. They do not accept the concept of subordinating their people's national interests to North American politics and after their respective revolutions, they cut ties with Washington and expelled companies that had business in their respective countries.

Many times the security and intelligence services tried to assassinate Muammar Khadafy and Ahmedinejad as the only alternative to change their regimes, through operations funded by the U.S. government and the U.S. military industrial complex.

In a press conference, the spokesman for the U.S. State Department, Philip Crowley, reiterated the words of President Barak Obama in which the opposition suggested their support for Ahmedinejad and Khadafy, so they desire retaliation for the political defeat suffered by Washington in recent weeks and the fall of the governments of Egypt and Tunisia.
The difficulty however, mainly in Libya, is to find conditions for holding demonstrations against Khadafy, considering that their own intelligence services have already informed Washington that the Libyan government has popular support and the total population has in mind the bombings carried out by the Reagan administration where dozens of Libyans were murdered in cold blood by U.S. attacks, including a daughter of Khadafy.

On Thursday (17), Ashur Shamis, a Libyan opposition activist living in London and recruited by British intelligence (MI6) and American (CIA) was given information passed by the U.S. embassy in the United Kingdom and admitted, in an embarrassing form, that they have been using images of the protests in Bahrain and Yemen as if they were held in Tripoli and Benghazi, Libyan major cities, which unmasked the action mounted by the media and organs of communication who are working together against Libya and Iran

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The U.S. Congress authorised the White House to double the amount approved in the 2011 budget for expenses related to propaganda, disinformation and media against leaders who oppose U.S. interests worldwide, as is the case with Muammar Khadafy Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales, Rafael Correa, Raul Castro, Daniel Ortega, Cristina Kirchner, Fernando Lugo, Kim Jong II. Resources would be used to buy space in the media of these countries ruled by these leaders in newspapers, radio, magazines and television networks. They should always refer to them as dictators and always receive directions from the Press Attachés in their respective countries or if there is a snag in any diplomatic relations with them, from CIA agents in the country.

The total project budget is one billion dollars, but to Brazil only 120 million were allocated for such action.

Last week there was a joint meeting between representatives of the CIA. The Central Intelligence Agency, State Department and Defence Department agreed that besides the funding for the actions against Khadafy and Ahmedinejad in their respective countries, millions of dollars would be transferred to opponents to allow them to organise demonstrations and start a world media campaign against the two and also seek to involve their Latin American allies to bring opposition parties to support U.S. positions.

The use of worldwide media images of demonstrations in Bahrain, where the U.S. Fifth Fleet is parked, and Yemen, another ally of the White House, as though the demonstrations happened in Tripoli and Benghazi, which happened, but to support the government of Khadafy in Libya, partly burned the U.S. plan against Libya. Yesterday Libyan students around the world decided to organise demonstrations in support of Khadafy and the Libyan government.

The secret services of the U.S. and other countries decided to infiltrate agents to create provocations and disrupt them. And as a way to undo the demonstrations, the CIA and the Press Attachés in U.S. embassies were responsible for spreading news with counter propaganda, publicising in the media of the world that students are being forced to support Khadafy under penalty of losing their scholarships to study, thereby initiating the plan that is coordinated by the White House itself.

Photos and images disseminated by means of alternative communication and a group of European students who are returning from Libya in the World Social Forum in Dakar, Senegal, support and show the veracity of statements by the Libyan government and Khadafy, considered a threat to the North American system. Starting with the power the student movement and Libyan youth exert, they virtually run the country's universities after Khadafy pursued his Cultural Revolution.

The United States also accuses Khadafy of being behind the demonstrations, prohibited from being spread in the U.S. by Patriotic Decree, carried out daily for forty (40) days in Puerto Rico by students who demand freedom of expression and public education in that almost State which ended up becoming a North American colony.

The control of news in the West about what is happening in the Middle East is so great that in all the demonstrations, from Tunisia and Egypt, U.S. flags, pictures of Obama and also George Bush are burned, but all these images are withdrawn by news agencies and television networks, controlled by the White House.

 

Photo shows support from the Libyan people to the government of Muammar Khadafy in TRIPOLI and used by the Western press as if it were contrary to Khadafy.

Photo: Mahmoud Turki / AFP

http://english.pravda.ru/images/article/4/3/3/43433.jpeg

By Khatarina Garcia and Peter Blair

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Biggest load of propaganda Bull Shit I have read in a long time .
Of course we and the Americans --- plus every decent person in the world -- wants people like Gaddafi destroyed .
And thanks be to God that trash like Gaddafi is on the point of being destroyed .
But even though we all wanted to be rid of this shite , none of us knew that natural processes would bring what we wanted ,  a long time before we imagined they would happen .

Now we just pray that weak Russians will rise against a State that is far more Evil than Gaddafi's .
May Russian people have the strength to come out into the light

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Just go to sleep  remembering that the Mad Dog is slaughtering his citizens with Bombs and forces that are massacring civilians .He has brought in Mercenary fighters from other African countries to kill his own people .

Gaddafi is a mad Monster and let no one tell you otherwise .
It is massacre .

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Gaddafi is a mad Monster and let no one tell you otherwise .

And who like not UK government gave him a present of releasing "Lockerbie bomber" in change of oil deal?

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First of all ,  I have included the last comment from Russian Lavender and my reply, from another Topic concerning the role of the Internet in the North African revolutions .The two Topics are part of the same general matter and  my action seems relevant and useful .
But RL introduced ( above ) the extra point of talking about the Lockerbie bomber and wondering whether he was released from prison to help us with various Business deals .
It is a fair discussion point and there is no clear black and white answer .
Despite the guy having been found guilty in a court of law , many people believe he was used as a sacrifice . It is doubtful if he was actually  involved and regardless , other people were , and probably far more significantly . Also , the guy is dying from Cancer .
There is nothing wrong doing a swap , and swapping people for people  , and people for other specific objectives goes on all the time . Russia , the US and ourselves are the master users of this technique .
The only mistake the British Govt. made was telling everybody that the decision was made solely by the independent Scottish Govt. and that we had no part in it . Nobody ever really believed that and it allowed the US to weep crocodile tears and make a huge fuss .
Our Govt. should have simply told everybody ( the US ) the truth and then told the US to shut up if they were unhappy about matters because we make our own decisions .
The mistake we made is not WHAT we did . It is HOW  we did it and then getting caught in not telling the truth .
But , in the wider picture , the incident is small and has little or no bearing on international policy .It will be used by countries like your own to make a wind when there is actually nothing else of importance to discuss .


What is real purpose for living??? Today Cameron admitted in Kuwait that UK were pursuing they interests and doing so they were actually supporting Caddafi  and the likes. What can be more proving my point? By agreeing that UK for them-self can bend its own democracy principals for so called "peace in the Middle East" , and we know that it means BP oil interest and arms trades in the region, you shall agree that the same applies to Russians, isn't it? People in Russia, or Belarus', or any country in this case, will get up and go when they will be no longer able to bear the way they are being govern. And it can happen not only in Belarus, but in the UK as well...
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Russian Lavender ,
I smiled at your very typical Russian comments towards political and economic  disasters .Blame everybody else but yourselves !!!
Let me first tell you about Gadaffi , Libya and the UK .
It was about 6 years ago that we let Libya come in from the cold . And "We" essentially means the UK .
It is generally known that Gadaffi has not been mentally stable for many years and possibly his whole life . His State has always been repressive and  appalling but financed from huge Oil revenue . We did everything possible to try and move his perspective toward internal improvements but our key priorities were  to prevent a lunatic like him developing his own nuclear weapon capability and to stop him sponsoring Terrorism and running a Dictatorship that was on a par --- in terms of Danger --- with Iran and North Korea .
We did a deal with him . He became "respectable" by giving up control in those two key areas and had sanctions lifted .
And the whole world became a better place . And don't ever forget that .
Since then ,  our trade with Libya is far behind countries like your own , though strangely it is Italy who has been doing the most trade with Gadaffi . And if you pause for a moment and remember how corrupt Berlusconi is --- I have been publishing this assertion for years ,  and the tip of that truth is becoming clear to everybody now -- this fact becomes less surprising .Incidentally , Russia does much more business with Libya than the UK .
So first get all of your facts prepared and checked .
Then get into the real world about using armaments as an instrument of foreign sales . If we simply stop selling arms to every regime that stinks of corruption , we  would have 55000 people without a job .
Meanwhile , the rest of the world ,  with Russia at the top of the list ,  would benefit and die laughing at the stupidity of the British .
Your more general other point is based on comparing two States such as Russia and the UK .
The differences between them are so huge that comparisons are  simply pointless and only used by people still locked into old style Communist or even Soviet mentality.
They are not even frankly worthy of comment.
If you cannot see that or are  not prepared to accept the facts , we have no further grounds for future sensible discussion .
However , both of us will watch events and wonder if the Winds of Change will sweep into more European countries like Azerbaijan , Uzbekistan and Belarus --- all vicious and corrupt dictatorships . Then we will finally see if the Russian people have the character and courage to stand up and be counted .

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Libya: Gadhafi hanging on

Colonel Muammar Gadhafi, the Leader of the Revolution in Libya, has made a defiant speech in Tripoli calling those behind the unrest "cockroaches", "cowards" and "traitors" whose aim it is to humiliate Libya by sowing chaos.

There is no doubt that Colonel Muammar Gadhafi is facing the greatest test of his political life, with the rest of the world looking on. On to what, depends on the news source. Some would have us believe that Libya is close to civil war, with reports of shelling among artillery units, others speak of desertions, others speak of French Mirage jets while actually showing unarmed Russian military aircraft, while others speak of attacks against unarmed civilians, yet show then parading around in jeeps with heavy machine guns.

In a word, chaos. Not only no doubt in some parts of Libya but also in the reporting. While Colonel Gadhafi was reported by some to have fled the country to Venezuela, there he was today standing defiantly in the barracks of Bab Al-Azizia in Tripoli, declaring that the protesters were a tiny percentage of Libya's population (less than one per cent) and calling on all loyal Libyans to take to the streets tomorrow wearing green armbands to show their loyalty to the Government.

He declared that he had not authorised the Libyan armed forces to use force against the protesters.

Quoting the Chinese example of Tiananmen Square, he stated that national unity is worth more than "a small number of protesters" and vowed to execute those who threaten Libya's national unity. Islamist separatists in Eastern Libya have reportedly taken Government loyalists hostage, raising the spectre of an extremist movement which indeed intends to take advantage of any eventual tensions among Libya's myriad of ethnic groups.

The main protests began in Eastern Libya, more precisely the region called Cyrenaica. This is home to an extremely complex grouping of peoples and tribes, an ethnic reality so easily and quickly exploited in so many other areas of the Arab-speaking world. Around the second largest city in Libya, and capital of Cyrenaica, Benghazi, reside the Arafah, the Darsa, Abaydat, Barasa, Abiid, Awaqir, Fawakhir, Zuwayah, Mugharbah, Majabrah, Awajilah and Minifah.

The question remains, who or what is behind these popular uprisings/ethnic tension? Certainly it appears that the scenario is very different from Egypt and Tunisia. Time will tell whether the Libyan people have risen up against Colonel Gadhafi, as the western press says, or whether what is happening in Libya is a handful of agents provocateurs trying to destabilise the regime, as the Government says.

Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey

Pravda.Ru
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As for your hot desire for such wild riots to start in the countries mentioned by you, Ramon, forget about it, even don't dream! The fact is that still millions of people living there and in Russia do still have a soviet mentality. And they know too well that even a bad peace is better than a civil war.

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The end of Gaddafi is close --- my guess is anything between the next few minutes and three days . I also guess  that the death roll will be around the 1000 mark which is a small price for regime change , even though such a statement sounds cold , clinical and without thought to the people concerned . But , unfortunately , that's how big pictures are composed .
The majority of casualties have come from air bombardment and African mercenary soldiers killing people randomly and cruelly .Don't forget there are dozens of people in direct link with BBC and Al Jazeera so we get news live and in actual time .As another example , we listened yesterday to people talking to us from Christchurch , New Zealand who were actually still trapped and waiting to be dug out of ruins . Quite surreal .
Ironically ,  the  Libyan revolution  has  truly sparked naturally and from the examples of Tunisia and Egypt --- no evidence anywhere of sub plots -- other than every right minded person or country wants Gaddafi dead and buried as fast as possible .
On the other hand , those first two revolutions were not as spontaneous as people imagine . America was caught totally off guard and the role of the Internet and organisations like Anonymous were huge contributing factors . But , there were other enormous pressures and the West seems to have been duped by the true role played by Moslem power groups -- not the Brotherhood directly as they were simply a deflecting weapon from the real dissenters .
I have no desire for Revolution and Regime Change other than the one I share with everybody who  wants the best possible scenario for ordinary  people who have lived under horrible dictatorship .
Russia will not change through Civil War . You will simply find that pieces of the Federation will fall, like leaves from a tree. Eventually the mob will turn on Putin and the KGB /FSB

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You are so naive, romantic Ramon! How can people living in Russia want to separate from it? Now, when they see what has happened to those who were as naive ten years ago as you are now? Do they want to live like those illegal immigrants from former Asian republics of the USSR who do their best to get to Russia and endure horrible life with the only aim-to gain a few thousand roubles to send them to their families in those "free" states? It's even not funny. There are a lot of bad things which take place in Russia, but people are thankful that they still live better than those our former citizens who decided (actually were fooled and and forced) to separate.
On the other hand, we don't have such leaders like Lenin or Gadhafi who could lead us to some honorable aim.

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Gazprom HQ is very nervous .
Even Gorbachev has taken issue with the twin dwarfs .Let us pray that like Gadaffi they are not with us for much longer .

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev criticised Prime Minister Vladimir Putin on Monday for monopolising power in Russia and robbing the electorate of what he says was a real democratic choice. Skip related content

Putin, who ruled as president from 2000-2008, is widely seen as Russia's paramount leader. He has said President Dmitry Medvedev, whom he steered into the Kremlin three years ago, and he will decide together who will stand in the March 2012 presidential elections.

In some of Gorbachev's harshest criticism yet of the current set up, he slammed Putin as "shameless" and accused him of "conceit" in thinking he could decide Russia's elections.

"It is shameless ... such conceit is unbelievable," Gorbachev, whose bold reforms helped trigger the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, told reporters.

"This is not Putin's business. It is the business of the nation. It is the business of elections. It is the business of those who will vote," he said.

"Are others not even allowed to run?"

Gorbachev joins a marginalised Russian opposition who accuse Putin of wielding too much power, disregarding many freedoms and not holding fair elections.

In the two decades since the Soviet collapse, Russia "has come no more than half-way" on the path towards democracy, Gorbachev said.

"We have a parliament, courts, a president, a prime minister ... But you know that this is little more than imitation," he said.

Likening Putin's ruling United Russia party to the Soviet Communist Party, Gorbachev said democratic institutions in today's Russia were broken because the pro-Kremlin party dominated in parliament.

"United Russia looks to me like the worst copy of the Soviet Communist Party," he said, adding that such political monopolies lead to "stagnation."

Gorbachev told Reuters last year that the Kremlin's economic modernisation drive that Medvedev is championing would not succeed without improvements in democracy and the electoral system.

Last week Gorbachev said the popular revolts in Egypt and Tunisia were a warning to autocrats the world over.

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'It's not up to Gorbachev to speak of democracy' - Experts

Well-known politicians, including the opposition, said they did not consider the ex-Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev a politician who tried to democratize the country and even more so, an expert on political modernization. According to them, there were many times when Mikhail Gorbachev contacted the West for help to intervene in the internal affairs of their country, and most of his "projects" like "perestroika" and "acceleration" were either idle talk or have failed and led to the destruction of the statehood.
In an interview with British TV channel Sky News, the former head of the Soviet Union discussed Russia's path towards a "democratic state" and appealed to foreign audiences with an advice on "what has to be done to move forward in this direction".

Stanislav Belkovsky, the director of the Institute of National Strategy in an interview with Politonline.ru said that he did not believe Gorbachev to be a Democrat or modernizer. "I believe that Gorbachev was not a modernizer, because with a strict approach to the concept of modernization, it is the process of building a modern state, modern society and modern institutions. Under Gorbachev in the Soviet Union the destruction of these institutions was commenced, including large systems of socialization of people," said the political scientist. "Gorbachev has launched the collapse of all systems of the Soviet Union and initiated the process of de-modernization of the country, which continues to this day," Belkovsky said. "It seems to me that Gorbachev did not have a political strategy. He had to finish Andropov's personnel revolution in the apparatus of the communist party, a generational shift, but planned no large-scale reforms. He had to finish cleaning the government and advance his own personal power and to keep the communist regime," he explained. The expert noted: "This was a weak leader who has got into power at the wrong time and that's what happened. And so what that we gained our "freedom." Gorbachev was in any case not a democrat, he was a classic party member, the flesh of the Communist Party. He did not want any democracy, of course," continued Belkovsky and added: "He has always strongly resisted democracy, but then he faced the forces that brought the story to the forefront - and was weaker than them, much weaker. When the USSR collapsed, Gorbachev did not want to plead guilty, did not want to admit his mistakes, and took credit for our newfound freedom. Since we have the crisis of moral authority in society, some of our countrymen are inclined to attribute to him the great advantages and historic role, which he did not possess and did not play," noted the analyst.

In turn, the publisher and writer Prokhanov said in comments to Politonline.ru, that the appeal Gorbachev made to foreign audiences, counting on media and political reaction of the West, was traditional and telling for the former head of the Soviet Union. "I will make a radical statement - I think that Gorbachev is one of the most extraordinarily effective country's agents in the entire history who was recruited in a complicated manner or under the influence of strategic rivals of the USSR to deliberately ruin the country," he said. "Perestroika" was inherently not a process of democratization, but an algorithm of layering effect launched in the Soviet society. It destroyed the bases of the Soviet Union - first the party, then the ideology and then the economy, military, and moral," said Prokhanov. "Under the slogan of "democratization" and with the support of the energy of the masses who wanted change, within four years the Soviet Union was weakened and presented a heap of still apparent, but already unsteady systems. The Communist Party was taken out of the picture, law enforcement, military, social motivation, intelligence and economy were discredited," he added.

"If we look at any strategic polls or conduct them in any part of the country, you will be convinced that Gorbachev is a negative persona, a negative authority for the majority of Russian, and earlier, Soviet citizens. He would have an unbelievably low rating with a negative sign, and he cannot consider himself an authority and teach someone," Prokhanov thinks.

Deputy General Director of the Institute of Social Systems Dmitry Badovsky suggested that Politonline.ru takes a hard look at Gorbachev's "modernization" and "democratization". "We see that Gorbachev's economic modernization has choked. The social one did have certain dynamics, and the political one was a complete and catastrophic failure, resulting in the collapse of the Soviet Union."

In addition, bloggers discussing the persona of Gorbachev wrote: "And what did he give us but the idiotic prohibition? Democratization? And what's this - the nationalist hysteria? The collapse of the Soviet Union? The withdrawal of troops from Europe, for which the country received nothing? "Gorbachev was always a can't-do under the gray cardinal Yakovlev and the Central Committee, therefore here he cannot compete with the intellectuals and argue with serious politicians," Internet users said.

Oleg Volodin
Politonline

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Thanks for that article , Bella .
It certainly shows Gazprom HQ to be very nervous - as we all know they are .
More surprising is the very low standard of discussion used to try and discredit Gorbachev. It is the old FSB line and now people just yawn when they hear the same gobbledy gook .It's about time that Gazprom realise that the only Russian who is taken seriously and at face value  outside of your country is Gorbachev -- rightly or wrongly .Therefore it makes no sense to continually disrespect him ,  as it simply is not believed .It is a complete waste of time . The more so ,  because everybody knows how certain individuals wrecked Russia's economy in the '90s backed by organised crime syndicates . It had nothing to do with Gorbachev . It represented a few very savvy young men , educated in the West or understanding capitalist principles , who brilliantly defrauded the State .
Get over the Bull Shit , Russia .

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